Linkage, 3.15.10

 === Vargas at ProBallNW ===

Jon with one of his patented graphics.  :golfclap:

PBNW uses the data to draw a rock-solid conclusion -- the velo drop coincided with a drop in arm slot.  Both associated with fatigue.  (The drop in arm slot is like not stepping into a jumper in basketball.)

A super catch that hasn't been linked elsewhere.  As Vargas cynics, we'll cheerfully admit that this crack assessment breathes fresh oxygen into the fire for Vargas' fans.

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=== Mariner Central ===

 I/O:  Discussing the fact that Bedard "feels like he never had surgery." 

CRUNCH:  In retrospect, it should have occurred to Dr. D what Bedard's July 2009 implied.  Alas, it never did occur.

Bedard struck out 25 men in 17 July innings (!!) and, in fact, finished the season with a 2.82 ERA in the American League.

We all sort of shook our heads to knock the cobwebs out at the cognitive dissonance, and moved on to talking about Jason Bay.  In retro, we should have realized that this meant that Bedard's shoulder probably wasn't all that torn up, now was it.

It's fine pitching through pain, and we have no doubt that Bedard was in pain that would have had most grown men weeping on the bench.  But if the muscles are gone, the lever doesn't pull.  That's all.

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This is one problem with us 'net rats discussing tears and surgeries.  A 15% tear is one thing and a 60% tear a different thing.  But do we treat them differently?  We just go on analyzing "hey, these eight rotator cuffs here, two guys came back and six didn't"...

It's a little like saying, 8 guys got in motorcycle crashes, six died, two were pretty much fine.  I heard your brother was in a crash... the doctor says he'll be fine, but look at the odds.  :- )

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MC says March 23 for his first bullpen?   Wow, so he's three weeks behind everybody else.  The AL West better make hay while it can.

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=== Lookout Landing ===

I liked Sully's take on the spring training chin music, that Lee might be the first pitcher we've had in a long time with a mean streak.

I'm not buying Lee's suggestion that he just happened to miss up-and-in, to the very batter that he had an argument with the inning before.  Nope huh-uh.

There came a time when the umps couldn't catch the spitballers with evidence, so they just said "if the ball moves like a spitter, it is one."  That will be a rule, too:  if you accidentally hit a batter in the head, who just tripped you the last inning, then don't spit down my neck and tell me it's raining."

The last "mean" pitcher the Seattle Mariners had, was Randy Johnson before he hit J.T. Snow in the head.  It's an incredibly improbable run of nice guys we've had out there... well, Jamie Moyer, despite appearances, could get pretty Baaad out there.

This may be a good time to bring up Lee's postseason record:  4-0, 1.56, forty innings, 33/6 control, one big gaudy ring.

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Erik Bedard is also a guy who gets red ears when threatened, as opposed to getting frightened when he's threatened.

Get the Mariners into a 7-gamer with Felix, Lee, and Bedard 1-2-3 and you're going to hear another postseason ballclub get very, very quiet in the pre-series quotes game.

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It's not a mirror image, but when I look at Cliff Lee I think of Lefty Grove.  And twenty other of those 4% bodyfat lefties from the 1910's and 1920's.  Tall, angular, chiseled, if he warn't a ballplayer he'd a knocked over stagecoaches.  Cliff Lee would gain weight if he lived in the Great Depression.

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=== Pro Ball NW again ===

With an analysis of the new Jarrod Washburn rumors.  Conor finds the indecision annoying, and doesn't see a lot of difference between Washburn and the in-house guys now.  Jon's a bit more pro-Washburn than that.

Good stuff.

I'm not Washburn's biggest fan, but I keep thinking about that stat:  13 of Wash's 20 starts with the M's were lockdowns.  0 or 1 runs.

I'm a little more worried about the 3-4-5 than most are.  As Bill James notes, 200 innings of average is a little harder to come by than we think. The difference between a hardened 200-IP vet, and a fringe guy out of AAA, can sometimes be bigger than the difference between average and All-Star...

But maybe Jack and Wok have built a Doc Brown machine that makes average pitchers out of Dachschunds.

Blengino has said, the 2009 administration had an easy job. Fill holes with decent players. 

 

BABVA,

Dr D


Comments

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Just to jump in here with some stuff that was interesting:
Tui played left field: that's a double whammy -- Tui as a true McLemore, and Sweeney as bench bat -- and bad news for Mr. yet-to-draw-a-walk/.261 OBP Byrnes.
Even though Lee's outing was cut short, Kelley only went 1.1 IP so it wasn't really the stretching out opportunity (he gave up 6H, 1BB, 4 ER).
Wak didn't care for French or Cordero's stuff. Cordero not stepping up would make the Kelley-to-rotation experiment less likely, particularly if Vargas continues to look No.5-worthy.
Wak singled out James Jones for praise. 4th round pick sizzled in Everett in 45 games: .311/.392/.463. Not quite as whiff-tastic as some of the low-minors guys we've been used to, either, with 19 BB and 40 K.

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Forgive me for not having a copy of the text in front of me, but one of my favorite stories from Art Thiel's "Out of Left Field" (seriously, guys read it) involved Randy Johnson's intimidation of other teams.
Paraphrasing: Randy was always on the lookout for other teams' pitchers throwing too far inside on his fellow Mariners. When pitchers would throw inside he would stand up outside the dugout, stare down the man on the mound, and yell, "Watch it, Motherf**kers! I throw tomorrow!"
Would love to have three of those guys on my side!

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minor league incident, threatening to kill the entire opposing team singlehandedly from the top step of the dugout? That was one of my favorite RJ moments, even though I didn't get to experience it third-hand.
Another had to be his reaction after he plunked that bird. No astonishment, no dumbfounded stare. He looked MAD that the bird screwed up his pitch. Probably would have killed the thing if given the chance.
Also throwing over Larry Walker(?) causing him to bat right-handed.
Yeah, we don't have much of that in recent M's history. Would be nice to get a little back.

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Remember Kruk vs. RJ in the AS game? Remember the first pitch going behind his head intentionally...and Kruk looking ready to wet himself (LOL)...and flailing at the next three perfectly located fastballs on the outside corner with his eyes shut and his backside halfway to the dugout? :)

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The other team was getting on Johnson for being ugly, Johnson fanned the last guy to end an inning, and then stomped over to stand on the top step of the other team's dugout. Pounded his chest. "Come on up here! I'll take your LIFE!" Not a peep...
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Johnson always had the red ears, but after J.T. Snow I never noticed him actually throw a pitch with the intent of hitting anybody.

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Well, even if you didn't create that one (for a change) you put your finger on the idea that matters with Vargas. Good stuff.

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