But I want to say, I'm not too interested in Beckett based on our existing farm system and the personality problems that he seems to portray that could mess up the mojo on the current club. And no matter what, it's hard to believe that the Red Sox would just take a bunch of scrubs for Gonzalez, I think it would necessitate parting with someone with name value, hence; the big 3, I don't think you could switch one of them for Maurer or even Ramirez because they just don't have the press the other 3 carry that could assuage an annoyed fanbase.
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Zach McAllister was cruising along rather easily, whereas Iwakuma was holding the Indians down through grim determination. After six innings, the Tribe had outhit the M's by 7-3, just about like Tuesday's game. The score was tied 1-1, just like Tuesday's game. And with the M's new power bullpen, the win felt scripted, just like Tuesday's game. Kyle Seager scrounged a double and my son looked shocked at something ... Seager's slide, maybe? "Man, Dad, this game is exactly like last night's."
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With the score tied 1-1, Seager grounded that long single past the second baseman and ... took off for second. OH NOO NOO NOOOOOOOOOO! He's out by 15 feet ... no, throw's on the wrong side of the bag MAN! he's FAST! and Seager does a "Superman" boot camp exercise to raise his torso up off the dirt. His hand slides under the tag and, technically, Seager gets to the bag before the ball gets to him.
This is the Mariners. Ball beats runner, runner out. Except, this time, the ump makes a Yankee call, and makes sure the Yankee is tagged out correctly. The ump signals Seager safe. Yes, Virginia, the umpires do respect the M's scramble up the ladder. Slap me silly and call me Shelley.
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John Jaso walks ... for the second time in the game; that's 21 walks against his last 9 strikeouts, by my count ... and Eric Thames comes to the plate. MoetheDog and I had been laughing about Al Oliver and Eric Thames looking like line-shot doubles every time they took their stances. Vinnie Pestano, who had just barbecued Jesus Montero, fired a 92 MPH fastball up and in, where Thames couldn't reach it. Thames fired a 92 MPH line-shot double down the RF line.
Capt. Insano time. The one significant difference between Wednesday and Tuesday: we were back to the routine ninth innings.
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The M's are -7.0 behind Oakland, with whom they have 6.0 games remaining, and who are suddenly -1.0 key players off their roster after roids suspensions. Talk about a gutkick: Bartolo Colon had a 116 ERA+, the ballclub was 14-10 in his games, and he was scheduled to start TODAY. Check out the A's pitching stats the last 30 days. Colon had a 1.57 ERA the last month, but Blackley, Parker, Milone and McCarthy have all been 4.88 to 6.18 the last month. True, they just got Brett Anderson back. Still no fun to lose your hot starter like that.
The M's are -6.5 back of Balmer, with whom they have 3.0 games remaining. Balmer also has 7.0 games left with the Yankees, 6.0 with the Red Sox, 3.0 with the Rays and 4.0 with the 68-55 White Sox.
If the M's did get to +10 over .500, it would be over the A's dead bodies anyway, so Merks could be right. May turn out that an 86-76 M's team had to worry about the White Sox / Tigers, rather than the A's and O's.
Bring it on,
Dr D
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The shout box seems to be evolving into our "Marquee Chat Thread." :- ) Not sure if that's a plus or a minus, but it's interesting.
Will ask Grant about your shoutage.
discussing OT stuff like this, these Indians threads should be mostly about the games or maybe Iwakuma or Saunders or Thames or Jaso, not about the maybe possibility of acquiring Adrian Gonzalez.
You couldn't have put all that in the shout queue. It's text limited. I had to lop off a sentence. They're trying to encourage you to keep the shouts short. ;) The bane of my existence...
I don't care much about Beckett's issues with the clubhouse over there. That was a group thing. It's not like he was a horrible influence during their latest title, or Schilling or others (*cough* Randy) who could rub folks the wrong way couldn't also get rings.
Beckett comes here to be the #2. That helps - there's a pecking order, and he's not bigger than The King. And I agree, we'd be parting with one of the big three. I don't care much about that either. We have Felix through 2014. Beckett is signed through 2014. A-Gone would be the missing piece of the offense.
We'd get two legit shots at a ring with Felix, and potentially the chance to re-sign him, all because we paid actual money for ballplayers who could help us. When you give up Pedro for scrap-metal or Shin-soo Choo for a speed bump, it sucks. When you trade Bosio for RJ or Travis Lee for Curt Schilling, what do you care how Bosio is pitching or Lee is for his new team?
You can trade a good player for a great player and come out ahead. Always get the best player in any deal. A-Gone is the best player, and (essentially) we'd be signing Beckett to a 2 year/ $30 million deal this offseason would be a short-term shot at lightning. The Angels are paying 2/29 for Haren (w/ buyout) and he was great for a year and bad the year after. But then as with Beckett it's DONE if they want it to be. We're not taking back some 6 year Zito deal.
The guy with the long-term deal is the MOTO hitter at the position we desperately need to fill and have no minor-league solution to. Just pretend Paxton threw his elbow to the backstop if it makes you feel better, and we signed one Beckett instead of two Vargases to fill the gap.
Baltimore's been waiting FIVE YEARS for a certain Chris Tillman to make his mark at the ML level, and he was about a year behind where Paxton and Walker are now at the time of the deal. You wanna wait til 2018, when Felix is gone, to see Paxton crack a 4 ERA in the bigs? We could. He might never do it.
I say this as a huge Paxton fan (he's my favorite of the Big Three). If he could get me A-Gone I would strap concrete shoes to him and throw him overboard. Erasmo, Beavan, Hultzen, Walker, the #15ish pick in the upcoming draft, and whomever else can fill the starting rotation spots - whatever's left after Felix/Beckett/Iwakuma, anyway.
Getting some 6th inning leads to our monster-in-the-making bullen is the key, as we've seen recently, and A-Gone helps us in a significant way with that. Paying his 20 mil contract is the price of doing business. We were willing to trade 6 prospects to get him 18 months ago, I'd be fine with giving up one or two to get him now. That's quite a drop in prospect price.
~G
Always get the best player in the deal, and Paxton the fave of the Big Three...
Your posts are growing on me G...
:- )