It's beyond the bucks for me right now, Doc: It's the indecision. Or perhaps it's the unwillingness to decide to get guys that may well make this team better....right when we need to get better and take advantage of a collapsing bunch of wild card suitors. Or it's the inability to actually decide that more Smoak or Ackley or Endy is the same bad bet with good money. Well, Endy was essentially free. No good money was expended. But I'm convinced that we're stuck on the "cost" of Smoak/Ackley (in the players we lost or didn't get) and we're determined to make that "cost" pay off.
Remember the movie Tin Cup? That's what we're doing: We're splasing ball after ball into the late because we're convinced the shot will eventually carry the water (Ackley and Smoak will become the players we thought they were when we acquired them). Oodles and oodles of contrary evidence be damned, we've got two superstars in there somewhere.
I may be a bit harsh on the Smoak callup, but only a bit. Well, actually I"m not. With Saunders gimped we had to make a callup. But exchanging an lumbering 1B with warning track pop for an athletic RF is a weird kind of call, especially when the results of that are more and more and more Endy/Ackley.
Expanding the salary limit will concern me over the winter, probably. But unless we're talking Price or Kemp it isn't the biggest issue right now. Moving on is.
Marlon Byrd isn't Frank Robinson, assuredly. But he has more than 5000 MLB PA's and has strung together his career best two-year streak. And you have to evaluate him? Hey, I'm not a big fan. There are lots of better guys we can get....but surely he makes us better this year.
We didn't just get into a playoff race on Tuesday. We've been there for a while. Our weaknesses were identified even longer ago. Hart was essentially a free roll of the dice to address those weaknesses. That roll crapped out, but it was still essentially free.
C'mon M's. Make up your mind to roll those bones again.
To quote another movie: "C'mon Dover! Move your bloomin' arse!"
I/O: The Red Sox are behind the Mariners. Hey, c'mon, everybody wants to win!
CRUNCH: One thing we can agree on: competition at the highest levels is tougher than it sounds. ;- )
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Here is my argument against the idea that "everybody wants to win equally." I could be wrong. :: ahem ::
OK, wow, we look up this morning and the Mariners have a chance make the playoffs this year! Dr. D is positively choked with admiration.
What about the last 37 years, gentlemen, shall we consider those also? The Mariners have a track record, which track record includes "this year's Robinson Cano free agent followup." Everybody around baseball was mystified by the M's lack of free-agent support for Robinson Cano. Remember?
And here we are, 10 runs in 7 games or whatever .... what was that year the M's were .500 in July with unbelievable starting pitching (Felix, Bedard, Pineda, Fister, Vargas or somesuch) and then the offense's futility caused them to give up, lose 17 in a row :- ) and throw in the towel?
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Maybe this year they win.
Perhaps an incoming tidal wave of young, cheap, cost-controlled players will override their organizational insincerity about fighting for a championship. Perhaps they'll win despite the fact that they don't want it as much as Arte Moreno does. It won't prove anything, to me, about their sincerity.
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Another Layer of Complexity: the Paradigm of Prioritization
The "mantra" is "everybody wants to win." Let's nuance that, and recognize that everybody wants a lot of things. The question is balancing your wants.
Two priorities, among many, for which CEO's are responsible:
- Winning the World Series* (or becoming a primary concern, or leading Market X, or "branding" yourself as youthful, or whatever)
- Maximizing this year's positive cash flow
30 teams want both, yes. In that sense "everybody wants to win." But! Each of the 30 teams has a subtly different prioritization of those two things.
I don't think you can seriously argue that there is a problem with the 1976-2013 Mariners' prioritization of those two things. Right after the Cano signing and the sound of crickets following, the East Coast -- not me! -- loudly called into question the M's commitment to winning.
I don't think anybody IN baseball DOES argue about whether there's a problem here. There is.
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One (Not-So-Great) Investor's Remarks on the Subject of "Cash Flow"
1) Profit, by the way, is realized on sale. This year's cash flow is not "profit" as my accountant would define it. The Mariners are realizing a colossal profit, whether or not this year's cash flow is positive. This year's cash flow is really just an "operating expenses" issue.
2) For those who just joined us: you buy an 8-plex for $200k, you sell it later for $500k ... whether your rent was +$1000 to your plumbing in this calendar year is incidental. Slum lords, like Donald Sterling, make sure their yearly cash flow is +$1000 just on principle. Not because they need it.
3) And, that $300k profit on the 8-plex ... of course you can spend it now. It's called a "line of credit." You take out a $100k second mortagage now, spend the $100k on your wife's Xmas, and then when you sell the 8-plex you get back $200k in pocket (rather than $300k) from the $500k sale price. You can easily move $100k of profit from "sale date" to "today." Real estate investors in fact DO this. Constantly. I've done it several times myself.
I don't know any fellow RE investors who view this any differently than I just explained it.
All 30 MLB teams have these lines of credit -- "early profit extraction" -- and it is why they can take a $27M "loss" for the 2013 season.
The Mariners prefer to lead baseball in "yearly positive cash flow." If this means they lose on the field, well .... you have to set priorities, right? As Chuck Armstrong put it, quote, "You can't get carried away with" the idea of winning.
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All's Well that Ends Well, Dept.
The M's nixing of Nelson Cruz' 28 HR and 74 RBI (just in the first half!) -- on the grounds of "responsible spending" -- was pretty flippin' Donald Sterling-like. In my opinion.
Rich men --- > spend dimes to make dollars (millions to make billions). The Seattle Mariners sign their TV deal, declare Cruz (and every single other player like him, kiddies) too expensive the day after, and ... much of Seattle declares them "responsible."
Personally, I declare them devoid of a competitive soul, at levels above Zduriencik. But then, that's just my opinion. It's my opinion in the full sense of the word "opinion."
Soul-less? How dare I? The ownership committe is not giving me tires for my money. It's only giving me a "pennant race." The flags in left field are in order of the standings!
These aren't exhibition games; these games are marketed to us as having more value than exhibition games, precisely because of the standings and the playoffs. MLB.com leads off with the standings, Mariners.com provides standings news, Mariners.com bills the A's vs M's as a pennant-race showdown, etc. etc.
That's all in the world we get for our $30 seat and $5 Pepsi. The pennant race. You're surprised I'm angry when the committee does not try to give us that?
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The 1990's M's had Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey Jr., Edgar Martinez, Alex Rodriguez, and Jay Buhner. James' acid comment, "The 1950's Braves managed to parlay Warren Spahn, Henry Aaron, and Eddie Matthews into one championship and a long series of excuses. The 1990's Mariners appear to have outdone them." The CEO in charge then, is in charge now. Dr. D wearied of excuses some 15 years ago.
Perhaps tomorrow, they'll take on a boatload of salary and turn this team into something with bad intentions, "embarrassing" Dr. D in the eyes of the superficial reader. That would be great.
If the Mariners won a championship this year, or next, or in 2016, it would prove certain things. One thing it certainly wouldn't prove: that 1976-2013 didn't occur. Another thing is wouldn't prove in Dr. D's mind: it wouldn't prove anything about the M's sincerity.
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Perhaps people who live in Japan, who don't like baseball (which is fine), continue to view the Mariners as a 1992-95 "gift to Seattle" (which was fine) and believe that they owe the city nothing more than a "competitive team and a nice night at the ballpark," even though the city paid for its $0.5B stadium. If so, this would all be fine: I only ask them to say that, before I buy my ticket to their ballgame.
This would be one version of sincerity, to tell us that they will provide us mediocrity because everybody above "zero" is a gesture of goodwill. TELL me that there will be no pennant fight, and I'm fine. Don't sell the pennant race, though, unless you mean it.
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What proves sincerity, to Dr. D., is sacrifice made towards an honorable goal. Definition of gullibility: Susie says X, does Y, and you believe X. A noted psychologist, 70 years old, taught me that. When a drug addict says one thing and does another, and you listen to the words, you are being gullible.
The Mariners signed two players who "brand" their franchise, players who are marketed on TV. Then they refuse to complete the team. That is what they have done.
From the Committee's standpoint, "sacrifice," that would mean raising payroll to bring in excellent players for the 25-man roster.
Moreno, by the way, is paying $154M in player salary this year. The M's are paying $90M. That's like playing $260 roto where your opponent gets $440 on draft day. I'll guarantee you that SABRMatt could win any roto league in the world on 60 minutes' preparation.
The Mariners could easily spend $30, $40, $50M more in yearly payroll, starting right now. They prefer not to. That is prioritization.
Sacrificing from the top down -- spending money in a 100% attempt to provide a great end product -- THAT would be sincerity. Lotsa teams do it.
Your friend,
Jeff
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the My Fair Lady reference! I'm a HUGE lover of the great movie musicals.
Alfie Doolittle! My favorite theatrical philosopher.
You can correct me if I'm wrong Moe :- ) ... my takeaway was that the "shot after shot into the lake" was there to underline a fatal personality flaw: that ego / desire to look "special" was more important than the actual goal of the game ...
With my Arsenal Gunners, the free agent / trade market is always about looking clever, getting a bargain, paying 80c on the dollar, than it is about grabbing the 3rd Red Property in Monopoly that will complete your team ... the Mariners also seem to feel the need to be DELIGHTED with their VALUE on any specific deal...
HEH! Can I get the T-Shirt? That one and "It's all 'bout the LOB salaries, boss."
"I can take this Mariner franchise, and in five years pass it's ownership off to the average fan as one that wants to compete."
"Why can't our owner....be like that?"
By the end of this season, if Jack pulls off the fraud successfully, we'll look at each other and say, "Man....I've grown accustomed to the chase."
...Ding dong the bells are going to chime!
Pull out the stopper! Let's have a whopper!
But get me to the game on time!
What I wouldn't give to hear Stanley Holloway sing that!
On the nose.
You are the man, Daddy! Alan Jay Lerner has got nothing on you!
Might be more to come if the spirit moves.
Nintendo gave the Mar’ners to Seattle
And Howard Lincoln came in with a glow
Nintendo gave the Mar’ners to Seattle, and
With a little bit o’ luck,
With a little bit o’ luck,
Someone else will spend the blinkin’ dough!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck we'll save our dough!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
The Lord made yearly ledgers to be tidy,
But made it cost too much to win the prize
The Lord made yearly ledgers to be tidy, and
With a little bit o’ luck,
With a little bit o’ luck,
All the fans will close their blinkin’ eyes!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck they’ll close their eyes!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
It takes a great GM to win the Series
We haven’t found one who can make it ours
It takes a great GM to win the Series, but
With a little bit o' luck,
With a little bit o' luck,
Beane’ll fall onto his blinkin’ arse!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck he’ll bust his bum!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
The Lord above made pennants for temptation,
To see if we’d get carry’d away to win.
The Lord above made pennants for temptation, but
With a little bit o' luck,
With a little bit o' luck,
When temptation comes we won’t give in!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck we won’t give in!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
We signed Cano to show them we meant bid-ness
And Willie Bloomquist for the bench to use
We signed Cano to show them we meant bid-ness, but
With a little bit o' luck,
With a little bit o' luck,
Willie B. will hit like Nelson Cruz!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck he’ll hit like Cruz!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ Bloomquist luck!
It's now July and we can smell the playoffs
And soon the trading deadline will be due
It's now July and we can smell the playoffs, but
With a little bit o' luck,
With a little bit o' luck,
Just the guys we have will stumble through!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck we'll stumble through!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
They say we need a right-hand bat like Stanton
They say our outfield doesn't make the grade
They say we need a right-hand bat like Stanton, but
With a little bit o' luck,
With a little bit o' luck,
Endy Chavez leads the hit parade!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
Grit-ty veterans won't let us fade!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ bloomin’ luck!
We are not worthy!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o' luck he’ll hit like Cruz!
With a little bit... with a little bit...
With a little bit o’ Bloomquist luck! -
All we need now is a Mad Magazine illustrator and we be in business!
over at the MarinerCentral forum and it's predecessors. There was a guy over there, I can't remember which one it was, that was genius. Me, I'm just a hack having fun.
"Just You Wait."
I think he's GOT it!
Sports...and Cultcha too!
You guys all made my night! Classic!!! Mucho thanks!
I remember they did a My Fair Lady Satire in which an impresario bets he can turn a hick square young man into a rock star. Good stuff.
Like calling Russell Wilson a nice game manager.
(gollum) Yessss we doooooo!
We typically are looking at a roster that if everything falls right , we might win 80+ games and have some nice evenings at the ball park. Someone had suggested that Jones and Elias were looking like ROY candidates. That's nice. I looked into their competition and saw Tanaka (before his injury) and Abreu and thought our guys were outclassed. They only cost money, but no prospects, and no picks. We just didn't have the will to sign them. Instead, after Cano, we shopped at Value Village for injury reclamation projects and hoped to get lucky. We have succeeded so far with Young, but busts so far with Hart and LoMo.
We gots ta bottom feed after signing Cano. We can't get carried away, don'cha know. Last night on the game broadcast the announcers mentioned attendance for the weekend was well over 90,000. Imagine what it would have been if we were TWO games back going into the series instead of NINE. Imagine if we had added one or two more BONA FIDE bats (at least one right-handed) over the offseason. We're pitching with the A's. It's these ridiculous 5, 8, or even 10-game stretches where we can't BUY a run that are making our offense among the worst in the AL, and this deficiency is like a bungee cord anchored at .500. We can only stretch it so far above .500 before it pulls us back.